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if you could only have 1 item to op with aside from camo and rations what would it be? mine would be a serated ka-bar or a swiss army knife.
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My Smith & Wesson HRT9B has gone with me on every op since I got it, never let me down. #1 on my kit list.
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Just my old multitool.
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A knife, has so many uses and is easy to carry.
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The awareness of my surroundings. Its the most useful tool i have ever used. Oh, and a mini mag lite with a red lens
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YesLegend wrote:A folding knife. Legal and useful.
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I have a feeling the word 'knife' is going to come up a lot in this thread...
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Flashlight. Hard to explore when you can't see, I reckon.
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Fuck, completely forgot about this I change my answer, red lensed flashlight.Psychlonic wrote:Flashlight. Hard to explore when you can't see, I reckon.
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Meh, flashlight can hurt just as often as it helps. Give me a small, reliable fixed blade knife and i can improv all the rest.
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I take it you don't go indoors, much?
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Perhaps about 10 - 15% of my opping time is spend indoors, and in most of the locations there is enough ambient light filtering in through windows/skylights that i can see well enough without having to use my maglite. That doesn't mean that it's not my second choice, but i think a knife is a lot more useful overall.
Hell, there was even one time that a police cruiser stopped to investigate an abandoned building i was opping because he saw my red light inside move across a wall that was visible through a front window.
Hell, there was even one time that a police cruiser stopped to investigate an abandoned building i was opping because he saw my red light inside move across a wall that was visible through a front window.
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Interesting. I couldn't op without mine, too many pitch black areas.
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Definitely my flashlight. Though my multi-tool is a close second.
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Just out of curiosity, what percent of your time do you spend either indoors or in rural areas?Psychlonic wrote:Interesting. I couldn't op without mine, too many pitch black areas.
I generally stick to anything from suburban to "light urban" type areas, simply because those are the areas that i live in. I've been thinking about putting together a pair of those makeshift IR goggles that you can create out of an old camera just for the few situations where i do go through more rural areas.
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Percentage-wise probably only 10% - at least in area, probably more like 30% in terms of time - but that 10% is typically the main reason I go out and deal with the other 90%. I've been in schools, offices, warehouses, mills, enclosed garages, and all these areas - even if they had a window somewhere - typically didn't have enough to allow me to really get to know my surroundings. I'm sure I could navigate through the darkness marginally without a flashlight, but what would be the point? I couldn't read labels, signs, see artistic/valuable objects fully, identify brands, a lot of shit without a flashlight. Being able to move through the darkness isn't enough for me. I go out to see (and sometimes take) things. And I mean see the damn thing completely. Look at the beauty of an old lever action rifle and think about where my moral compass is that night. A pristine muscle car in someone's garage and wonder if someday I'll be dumb enough to take it. An airplane locked up in a pitch black hangar, knowing I'm standing next to hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dollars. Graffiti on the walls, I want to know what it is. If I can't see, there's no point. Not to me, anyhow.
If anyone else can get by without a flashlight, I envy you. I don't have that luck on my operations.
If anyone else can get by without a flashlight, I envy you. I don't have that luck on my operations.
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Well i think it's safe to say that the more intense the operation is, the greater need there is for gear. And most of the stuff i do now isn't exactly intense by any means. Still, there is a reason that a flashlight is one of the three things i bring with me on operations, which you illustrated perfectly right above me. I sort of assumed that this was a thread about just getting by, and let's face it - most of us here could get by with just a flashlight, or with just a knife, or just a multitool. regardless of the single item chosen, your experience will be diminished from what it may have been if you had a full kit with you.
However, being the paranoid guy that i am, i'd trust my self defense skills with a knife over my chances at being able to use a maglite like a kubotan. And bottom line, when it comes to something potentially dangerous i'll take the method that gives me the best chance of success every time. I won't disagree, a flashlight would not limit you nearly as much, but a knife would almost always leave you safer.
Of course this is all based on some hypothetical situation where we are limited unrealistically. On any normal op, my knife, my maglite, and my picks will all make it into my gear loadout.
Edit: someone should market a survival knife with a maglite built into the handle instead of the hollow storage space.
However, being the paranoid guy that i am, i'd trust my self defense skills with a knife over my chances at being able to use a maglite like a kubotan. And bottom line, when it comes to something potentially dangerous i'll take the method that gives me the best chance of success every time. I won't disagree, a flashlight would not limit you nearly as much, but a knife would almost always leave you safer.
Of course this is all based on some hypothetical situation where we are limited unrealistically. On any normal op, my knife, my maglite, and my picks will all make it into my gear loadout.
Edit: someone should market a survival knife with a maglite built into the handle instead of the hollow storage space.
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You could carry a small LED in the empty space, I've got a small red one that's not even a centimeter thick and about 3cm long. It provides enough light for me to see clearly indoors, it'd fit nicely in a Ka Bar handle.
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