Pursuit and aggressive escape
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Pursuit and aggressive escape
Doing NO for long enough will get you chased at some point or another. There are are a few ways to escape this pursuit, such as running, hiding, negotiating etc. However I'm gonna talk about aggressive escape, as I call it. The idea behind it is simple, a hunter will go out and try to kill some dear but it isn't likely that a hunter will chase after a bear, because s/he knows it could lead to some pain.
Aggressive escape is about running away while convincing your pursuers to quit. The idea is to take routes that you will be comfortable for you and the skills you have while dangerous to those after you, this can mean using parkour, or going through thorny bushes that you know have a small hole. Another important facet of aggressive escape is altering the path behind you to make it more difficult to cross for your pursuers, such as pulling branches forward, or pulling obstacles onto the path behind you.
A last resort is setting up small ambushes than continuing to run. You probably won't need this unless you're on some major black op but I'm sure you get the idea.
Some more examples are:
Crossing the street before the light turns red.
Pulling the rug off the barbed wire fence after you.
Crossing an area with an aggressive dog you are familiar with.
Tripping a pursuer as they turn a corner before continuing to run.
Hope this helps out, not that I hope you need to use it
Aggressive escape is about running away while convincing your pursuers to quit. The idea is to take routes that you will be comfortable for you and the skills you have while dangerous to those after you, this can mean using parkour, or going through thorny bushes that you know have a small hole. Another important facet of aggressive escape is altering the path behind you to make it more difficult to cross for your pursuers, such as pulling branches forward, or pulling obstacles onto the path behind you.
A last resort is setting up small ambushes than continuing to run. You probably won't need this unless you're on some major black op but I'm sure you get the idea.
Some more examples are:
Crossing the street before the light turns red.
Pulling the rug off the barbed wire fence after you.
Crossing an area with an aggressive dog you are familiar with.
Tripping a pursuer as they turn a corner before continuing to run.
Hope this helps out, not that I hope you need to use it
Caltrops, if you're not worried about someone's foot getting an impressive puncture. You can buy them online but unless you're a complete tool you'll just make them yourself.
Thanks, OP. I don't know that I'll need it considering my current activities, but I might slip up one day while sneaking around behind Walmart, following the guard who's supposed to be detecting me.
Thanks, OP. I don't know that I'll need it considering my current activities, but I might slip up one day while sneaking around behind Walmart, following the guard who's supposed to be detecting me.
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How do you MAKE Caltrops? Aren't those things pretty heavy duty?
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Zaffron wrote:How do you MAKE Caltrops? Aren't those things pretty heavy duty?
You can make them from pennies, if you have the time.
Try google.
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There's also a way to make them from nails, i think the "spike" version:
which looks like it would be a lot more effective than the "bent metal sheet" version:
on someone wearing footwear.
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I made some caltrops a long time ago. Never used them and I have no idea where they are now.
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Yea, the flat ones are from old Japan when people wore straw sandals all the time with leather socks. The newer ones are better against modern footwear, also if you plan on using on roads to pierce tires you might wanna take the time to make the spikes sharps tubes so that the hole in the tire actually lets out air, a simple hole in the rubber isn't always enough on tougher tires.Therin the Hand wrote:There's also a way to make them from nails, i think the "spike" version:which looks like it would be a lot more effective than the "bent metal sheet" version:Code: Select all
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Psych you have the idea perfectly, normally people being chased feel that they are being hunted/victimized/whatever, but the idea here is to fight on your own terms and make it clear. It's not gonna be easy to set up and ambush if you're chasing someone, vice versa is simple though.
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An easy way to make tetsu-bishi (caltrops) is to buy some fencing staples, bend them into a 90 degree angle and superglue or weld their inner corners together. The way I usually escape (only happened once) is to break the line of sight and find a good hiding spot, then turn the hunter into the hunted.
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Having worked with those staples at work as recent as 3 hours ago, I can vouch for how sharp they are. There is no way superglue would hold them together when stepped on, so weld them.
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This.Psychlonic wrote:This is probably a no-no but I have it in my head that if someone is chasing me and I'm confident I can take them out, I'll hide around a corner with a heavy club, batter them, and tie them up where they'll be found later. You can always lay prone around a corner and see them just fine, whereas they'd never be able to see you. Crab block them as soon as they come around the corner and put them to sleep.
If the person is chasing you and they haven't notified anybody that they are pursuing you (basically they're the only one that knows you are there), to me that is the dumbest thing they can do. You are really only at risk if they can see you. As soon as you are out of sight, the ball is back in your field. Use this to place them in situations that they know they are at a disadvantage in so they will feel discouraged at any further pursuit lest you randomly emerge and attack them. If they fail to take this precaution and leave the area, the next encounter begins at your choosing.
This has always been my plan if I was being pursued by anyone other than a cop.
My plan has always been to hide prone around a corner, and as soon as they come around turn my head and hit em in the face with my mace. Then pretty much just book it in case they called for help.
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Haha, do you take your mace with you when you're opping? That's badass.Dethkreep wrote:This.Psychlonic wrote:This is probably a no-no but I have it in my head that if someone is chasing me and I'm confident I can take them out, I'll hide around a corner with a heavy club, batter them, and tie them up where they'll be found later. You can always lay prone around a corner and see them just fine, whereas they'd never be able to see you. Crab block them as soon as they come around the corner and put them to sleep.
If the person is chasing you and they haven't notified anybody that they are pursuing you (basically they're the only one that knows you are there), to me that is the dumbest thing they can do. You are really only at risk if they can see you. As soon as you are out of sight, the ball is back in your field. Use this to place them in situations that they know they are at a disadvantage in so they will feel discouraged at any further pursuit lest you randomly emerge and attack them. If they fail to take this precaution and leave the area, the next encounter begins at your choosing.
This has always been my plan if I was being pursued by anyone other than a cop.
My plan has always been to hide prone around a corner, and as soon as they come around turn my head and hit em in the face with my mace. Then pretty much just book it in case they called for help.
Or wait...do you mean the pepper spray type mace...or the medieval club? Because I was imagining the latter...
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I usually carry 2 tubes of metsu-bishi (Ninja blinding powder) on me on my ops, just in case. Havn't had to use them yet but the time will eventually come.
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Nah the pepper spray kind. Sorry to dissapoint.nooner wrote:Haha, do you take your mace with you when you're opping? That's badass.Dethkreep wrote:This.Psychlonic wrote:This is probably a no-no but I have it in my head that if someone is chasing me and I'm confident I can take them out, I'll hide around a corner with a heavy club, batter them, and tie them up where they'll be found later. You can always lay prone around a corner and see them just fine, whereas they'd never be able to see you. Crab block them as soon as they come around the corner and put them to sleep.
If the person is chasing you and they haven't notified anybody that they are pursuing you (basically they're the only one that knows you are there), to me that is the dumbest thing they can do. You are really only at risk if they can see you. As soon as you are out of sight, the ball is back in your field. Use this to place them in situations that they know they are at a disadvantage in so they will feel discouraged at any further pursuit lest you randomly emerge and attack them. If they fail to take this precaution and leave the area, the next encounter begins at your choosing.
This has always been my plan if I was being pursued by anyone other than a cop.
My plan has always been to hide prone around a corner, and as soon as they come around turn my head and hit em in the face with my mace. Then pretty much just book it in case they called for help.
Or wait...do you mean the pepper spray type mace...or the medieval club? Because I was imagining the latter...
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Screw that, I just bring a warhammer.nooner wrote:Haha, do you take your mace with you when you're opping? That's badass.Dethkreep wrote:This.Psychlonic wrote:This is probably a no-no but I have it in my head that if someone is chasing me and I'm confident I can take them out, I'll hide around a corner with a heavy club, batter them, and tie them up where they'll be found later. You can always lay prone around a corner and see them just fine, whereas they'd never be able to see you. Crab block them as soon as they come around the corner and put them to sleep.
If the person is chasing you and they haven't notified anybody that they are pursuing you (basically they're the only one that knows you are there), to me that is the dumbest thing they can do. You are really only at risk if they can see you. As soon as you are out of sight, the ball is back in your field. Use this to place them in situations that they know they are at a disadvantage in so they will feel discouraged at any further pursuit lest you randomly emerge and attack them. If they fail to take this precaution and leave the area, the next encounter begins at your choosing.
This has always been my plan if I was being pursued by anyone other than a cop.
My plan has always been to hide prone around a corner, and as soon as they come around turn my head and hit em in the face with my mace. Then pretty much just book it in case they called for help.
Or wait...do you mean the pepper spray type mace...or the medieval club? Because I was imagining the latter...
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